. >> that will get some religion in to politicians in washington and they will get their act together and make a resolution. certainty is what we are looking for. not that we need the fiscal cliff result one way or the other but we need certainty. we need policy in place so people and corporations know how to spend money. dennis: certainty promised is pretty bleak. two million more job losses, the nation would go into recession again. doesn't have to be the end of the world that politicians want to avoid. widened to of view say we're going over the cliff, there's a chance they get this thing done? [talking over each other] shibani: no one is doing any work today. >> things can happen. we have seen things happen on a short time from. i was amazed when i woke up this morning checking news feeds that everyone was enthusiastic about the deal coming together. absolutely nothing from an evidence point of view would support that between today and three days ago but you are right that things do happen on a short time frame. let me say one more thing. you are right that the fiscal cliff is dis